# Open Mic – Emerging Health Tech & Innovation roundtable - Session One, 2023

**URL:** <https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749>\
**Category:** Open Forum\
**Tags:** event, eht-open-mic, emerging-tech\
**Created:** [January 30, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749 "2023-01-30T01:20:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![mary.crowe](https://ehealthforum.nz/user_avatar/ehealthforum.nz/mary.crowe/32/10119_2.png) [@mary.crowe](https://ehealthforum.nz/u/mary.crowe)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749/1 "2023-01-30T01:20:32Z")

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Welcome to the first Emerging Health Tech Open Mic session for 2023, our fortnightly catch-up to chat about what innovative things are happening around both locally and internationally this week.  
Working on something cool you’d like others to know about? Share it with us!

You will notice the new time and day (held fortnightly) for this year, hopefully allowing more people to attend. Please contact @jon_herries for your recurring invite, or click on the link below to jump into this week’s session.

See you there!  
The EHT&I Team

## Recording

[![](https://ehealthforum.nz/uploads/default/original/2X/2/24afe2c53901b3218bc90af40a5db9415bfe93d3.jpeg "Open Mic – 2023e01 Philosophical AI - deep cuts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5we0PvIzqo)

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**Author:** ![jon\_herries](https://ehealthforum.nz/user_avatar/ehealthforum.nz/jon_herries/32/6584_2.png) [@jon\_herries](https://ehealthforum.nz/u/jon_herries)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749/2 "2023-01-31T19:41:50Z")

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Recorded 31/01/2023 (see above)

Holiday catch up

Pera the plumber ([https://www.loom.com/share/4d89a89835e34bb780be7098639496aa](https://www.loom.com/share/4d89a89835e34bb780be7098639496aa))

Chat GPT  
explain what the ehealth forum & HiNZ is  
AI Bot [ChatGPT](https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/) Passes US Medical Licensing Exams Without Cramming – Unlike Students -  
[https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/987549](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/987549)  
Creating personalised health content, changing the tone vs who the audience is

Deep cuts on philosophy and outcomes  
Culture vs pathways? Survival? Something about photography? Tomatoes? Echolocating colour? (I got a bit lost while side questing here and don’t know what started the conversation)

> **[I listen to color](https://www.ted.com/talks/neil_harbisson_i_listen_to_color?language=en)**
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> Artist Neil Harbisson was born completely color blind, but these days a device attached to his head turns color into audible frequencies. Instead of seeing a world in grayscale, Harbisson can hear a symphony of color -- and yes, even listen to faces...

Therapeutics product bill – what is a medicine, does this include food? Medical devices, does this cover fitbits to pacemakers?  
What is the regulation that will come from this, and how do you manage such a diversity of products with a country our size?  
Willow bark or your favourite chemist

Three groups Jon visited over Christmas/New Year  
Matai – Gisborne – MRI research

- Prostate Cancer
- Pulse which appears to show inflammation of the brain
- Concussion

[www.taikie.nz](http://www.taikie.nz) - Innovation Lab in Gisborne  
[www.V1ewpoint.com](http://www.V1ewpoint.com) - portable ultrasound for cannulation

iCareFaster update - Mary

HBA1C PoC devices

Student placements – Jon & Eileen

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**Author:** ![eduddy](https://ehealthforum.nz/user_avatar/ehealthforum.nz/eduddy/32/14159_2.png) [@eduddy](https://ehealthforum.nz/u/eduddy)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749/3 "2023-02-01T01:16:14Z")

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This popped up on my linkedin feed today.

> **[New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text](https://openai.com/blog/new-ai-classifier-for-indicating-ai-written-text/)**
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> We’re launching a classifier trained to distinguish between AI-written and human-written text.

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**Author:** ![Greig](https://ehealthforum.nz/user_avatar/ehealthforum.nz/greig/32/3653_2.png) [@Greig](https://ehealthforum.nz/u/Greig)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749/4 "2023-02-01T03:52:33Z")

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Thanks, @eduddy

The quote the authors **Our classifier is not fully reliable.** In our evaluations on a “challenge set” of English texts, our classifier correctly identifies 26% of AI-written text (true positives) as “likely AI-written.”

Translation; toss a coin, and the odds of a true positive are the same or better than the app depending on how you read the ambiguity.

The authors wish to know if such products have utility. The answer is no they don’t and such nonsense does the whole field a disservice.

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**Author:** ![jon\_herries](https://ehealthforum.nz/user_avatar/ehealthforum.nz/jon_herries/32/6584_2.png) [@jon\_herries](https://ehealthforum.nz/u/jon_herries)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://ehealthforum.nz/t/open-mic-emerging-health-tech-innovation-roundtable-session-one-2023/28749/5 "2023-02-01T05:27:16Z")

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It is interesting though, as if you could put your thumb on the proverbial scales of horse racing odds or online advertising you stand to make a lot of money.

Unfortunately understanding the epidemiological consequences of poor accuracy aren’t really a profitable model (you spend a lot of profit checking that you didn’t miss something).
